tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3438911242650993490.post7574818628549172631..comments2023-06-14T01:57:25.811+12:00Comments on UNITY: Tax Justice will be an election issue in 2011UNITYbloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04988382051387127423noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3438911242650993490.post-24701783278157137522010-10-21T16:50:36.630+13:002010-10-21T16:50:36.630+13:00Don, hopefully address your points regarding diale...Don, hopefully address your points regarding dialectics, revolutionary vision etc in a post I hope to have up in the next week or so. In the mean time, am currently copying Ramones CD to MP3 player. <br /><br />But I won’t be ditching the tax justice campaign, which unlike an abstract call not to pay taxes is connecting with masses of people and organising some of them into a movement capable of Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06711773649948256237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3438911242650993490.post-64148619203437700372010-10-20T19:15:57.692+13:002010-10-20T19:15:57.692+13:00David, all due respects,
That is not the point.
...David, all due respects, <br />That is not the point. <br />What I take from Marx is not what is or is not possible in terms of filling out a tax return in 2010.<br />Neither do I give two shits about what was quoted exactly what year when. <br />The relevant thing here is not about saving three cents on a fresh cucumber, its about revolutionary vision and spirit.<br />Fiddling around with Don Franksnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3438911242650993490.post-3466527651450555242010-10-20T16:28:04.961+13:002010-10-20T16:28:04.961+13:00That piece you quote is stirring stuff from Marx a...That piece you quote is stirring stuff from Marx and I agree, refusal to pay taxes was the primary duty of every revolutionary citizen of mid-nineteen century Prussia. Sadly for all the steam punk enthusiasts out there, this is not mid-nineteen century Prussia.<br /><br />In calling for a tax boycott in Germany, Marx (writing in his newspaper published in London) was reporting and reacting to a Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06711773649948256237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3438911242650993490.post-10566569985789217852010-10-20T13:57:18.580+13:002010-10-20T13:57:18.580+13:00David, I burst into song when words fail me.
Sorry...David, I burst into song when words fail me.<br />Sorry, I simply don't know how you begin to explain to a revolutionary socialist " what's wrong with taxing the poor" <br /><br />I'm with the guy who said sometime in November 1848:<br /><br />“From today, therefore, taxes are abolished! It is high treason to pay taxes. Refusal to pay taxes is the primary duty of the citizenDon Franksnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3438911242650993490.post-67667713496975975512010-10-20T10:46:13.881+13:002010-10-20T10:46:13.881+13:00Don I appreciate the time an effort you put into t...Don I appreciate the time an effort you put into the verse above, but what’s your political point? Like “anonymous” you haven’t addressed my question “what’s wrong with taxing the poor?” Or perhaps I should rephrase that to make my point clearer: what’s wrong with poor people, along with middle income working people paying some tax?<br /><br />I am poor, but I have no objection in principle to Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06711773649948256237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3438911242650993490.post-4829228399532675332010-10-20T10:02:01.811+13:002010-10-20T10:02:01.811+13:00Not taxing the first 10,000 is a good policy. RAM,...Not taxing the first 10,000 is a good policy. RAM, which UNITYblog supported at the last election advocated something similar, as does the Maori Party. <br /><br />However, $10,000 a year is only $192 dollars a week (before tax). This is less than what most beneficiaries are paid, or even what you’d get for two day work a week on the minimum wage. So most of the working poor will still be paying Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06711773649948256237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3438911242650993490.post-75210973323901551782010-10-20T09:48:27.843+13:002010-10-20T09:48:27.843+13:00Bravo David,
At last a socialist is talking sense
...Bravo David,<br />At last a socialist is talking sense<br />able to empathise with both sides of the fence<br />Why not tax the poor<br />so long as the rich pay more?<br />Tax the rich as high as you can measure<br />they'll never want a loophole for their treasure <br />And then, to even up the social score<br />roll up your sleeves and tax the whining poor.<br /><br />Apart from being Don Franksnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3438911242650993490.post-16149789564246421092010-10-20T06:24:41.105+13:002010-10-20T06:24:41.105+13:00Alliance policy is better. First 10,000 dollars fr...Alliance policy is better. First 10,000 dollars free. Stuff the socialistsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3438911242650993490.post-50267035238460533452010-10-19T22:35:32.509+13:002010-10-19T22:35:32.509+13:00It also means taxing the rich, and as the press re...It also means taxing the rich, and as the press release explains, currently the kinds of income that aren’t taxed (big financial transactions and capital gains on property) are those most likely to going into the bank accounts and family trusts of the rich.<br /><br />In any case, what’s wrong with taxing the poor, so long as the rich pay more?Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06711773649948256237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3438911242650993490.post-76298353866567248442010-10-19T10:16:59.561+13:002010-10-19T10:16:59.561+13:00"Taxing all forms of income" = taxing th..."Taxing all forms of income" = taxing the poor.<br /><br />Stuff that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com